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1PostSubject: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:55 pm

I just ran a Google on that phrase, after hearing oodles of opinions on the matter on CNN all day, and so far no one has directly expressed the thought that occurred to me as soon as I heard about the endorsement.

Putin's original career was as a KGB Agent, and I can easily picture him saying, "Trump is a bully and a braggart ... and I've been eating guys like that for breakfast all my life."
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2PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:27 pm

Because both espouse a paranoid ideology that is ready for a major war.


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3PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:15 pm

regmelocco wrote:
Because both espouse a paranoid ideology that is ready for a major war.

I agree, and I've noticed that the Obama Administration is now preparing to deal with this approach. Just today, the President mentioned that the USA is NOT seriously threatened by ISIS-type terrorism, and that both traffic accidents and misuse of firearms kill more Americans every year than terrorism ever could.

Plus lots of other US political experts are pointing out that if Trump's promises were carried out, it would involve this country in foreign invasions on a vast scale and in genocidal actions against illegals that would lose us practically all foreign support.
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4PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:22 pm

My Hindu astrology correspondences confirm that Plump will not be elected this time as he has a Jyeshtha Moon the end of Scorpio, which is still severely attacked during the election months by Sade Sati, Saturn's close transit once every 30 years (which caused Shiva to hide under the Ganges and meditate for 7.5 years). We'll see if this is true, and tick another feedback from the world.

My interpretation of this is that people usually do not reap undeserved leadership positions during the traditional time of Sade Sati. Consequently, the only chance of him being elected is if he does have to be there from the POV of a Cosmic Plan... and if he really deserves it - I sincerely doubt that.

What I'm more afraid is that nevertheless he turns into a professional leader of the isolationist Nazi-like front and they will mount an attack in 2020 with him as candidate because they could show how the US was mishandling the increasing threat of a world conflict... Or even before.
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5PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:17 pm

reg, #4, re: "My Hindu astrology correspondences confirm that Plump will not be elected this time as he has a Jyeshtha Moon the end of Scorpio, which is still severely attacked during the election months by Sade Sati, Saturn's close transit once every 30 years (which caused Shiva to hide under the Ganges and meditate for 7.5 years). We'll see if this is true, and tick another feedback from the world. My interpretation of this is that people usually do not reap undeserved leadership positions during the traditional time of Sade Sati. Consequently, the only chance of him being elected is if he does have to be there from the POV of a Cosmic Plan... and if he really deserves it - I sincerely doubt that."

I don't think any professional politicians in the USA, regardless of their place on the ideological spectrum, believe that Trump stands any chance of being elected POTUS himself, but there's theorizing from many different angles that he may still have a significant influence over who does get elected. First, he's already made it unlikely that the Republicans will nominate a moderate like Jeb Bush and that their eventual candidate will be too conservative to have much appeal to the centrist voters who decide most close elections. Second, he's made it unlikely that the Democrats will have to worry much about who they nominate, and that it's safe for them to go with Hillary regardless of what heppens between now and the election, simply because there's not enough time to build up a realistic candidate as the Demos built up Obama in 2008. And third, he's introduced several issues into the early stages of the campaign that will disappear when the Presidential race between the Democrats and Republicans gets serious. These issues are immigration, the war against Daesh, and US relations with Russia. It now appears obvious that the eventual candidates of both major parties will have very similar positions on all of these issues.

re: "What I'm more afraid is that nevertheless he turns into a professional leader of the isolationist Nazi-like front and they will mount an attack in 2020 with him as candidate because they could show how the US was mishandling the increasing threat of a world conflict... Or even before."

I don't see this happening, because the "isolationist Nazi-like front" here in the USA is much, much weaker than its counterparts anywhere in Europe. There are only two extreme right wing factions here, and both have a lot less total power than appears on the surface. The biggest these factions contains Christian fundamentalists whose chief concern is social conservatism, and they don't have anywhere near enough popular support be a major political influence. And the other faction is actually closer to being libertarian than conservative: it's made up of gun nuts who believe they can ignore the government and rule their own neighborhoods. And the reality is that if they ever make a serious effort to do this, they'll just be ignored as the rest of the country goes about its business.
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6PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:13 pm

That's a reassuring train of thought. Thank you!
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7PostSubject: The Two Contending Visions of World Government   Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:26 am

This is a very long read however it completely exposes (imo) the workings behind the scenes that the public in general is totally unaware of..and it is pertanant to your posts above;
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/06/the-two-contending-visions-of-world-government.html



http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/historic-new-harpers-article-exposes-controls-america.html

To boil it all down (which he sadly doesn’t): The fundamentalist-Sunni royal family of the Sauds have bought the highest levels of the U.S. government in order to control U.S. foreign policies, especially the ongoing wars to take down the governments of Iraq, Libya, Syria, and ultimately (they hope) of Russia itself, which latter nation has allied itself instead with Shiia countries. The controlling entities behind American foreign policies since at least the late 1970s have been the Saud family and the Sauds’ subordinate Arabic aristocracies, which are the ones in Qatar (the al-Thanis), Kuwait (the al-Sabahs), Turkey (the Turkish Erdoğans, a new royalty), and UAE (its six royal families: the main one, the al-Nahyans in Abu Dhabi; the other five: the al-Maktoums in Dubai, al-Qasimis in Sharjah, al-Nuaimis in Ajman, al-Mualla Ums in Quwain, and al-Sharqis in Fujairah). Other Saudi-dominated nations — though they’re not oil-rich (more like Turkey in this regard) — are Pakistan and Afghanistan.

On December 15th, the Sauds formed their own Sunni-Islamic version of the American aristocracy’s NATO
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/saudi-royal-family-announces-new-global-sunni-military-empire.html
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8PostSubject: Re: Why Putin Endorsed Trump   Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:53 pm

I didn't read the articles cited above, because I have been reading similar material
for many years and tend to believe that there's more truth to it than the US
government or media has ever been willing to admit.  Everyone in Western civilization
who has a grain of common sense now knows that plutocracy has gradually been
replacing other forms of government in almost every country, with the rich getting
richer and everyone else getting poorer, but this doesn't get discussed much on line
because body has any realistic suggestions for making reforms. And of course it hardly
gets mentioned on the mass media or in the educational system at all, because they
are owned part and parcel by the economic elite.

However, I see no reason to worry about any of this, because modern technology
itself is going to create a "New World Order" that's much different than the vast
majority of Earth people can now imagine ... and that includes members of the present
power elites. It becomes more obvious every year that the Information Revolution
empowers individual users of computers and the Internet more than it empowers
organizations run from the top down.

Nor do I feel it is necessary to give further explanations of this here and now, because
it's something that people have either already figured out for themselves or aren't
yet capable of understanding at all.
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