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1PostSubject: Born remembering   Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:33 pm

In my humble opinion and knowing, some of us remember the spirit world, which is our true home. I do.
Because I remember and have never cut the link connecting me with the spirit world, I have always listened to my guides. I never thought of this as anything but normal. I carry on conservation with my guides most every day. I think everyone does, though some might mistake the voice within with something better left alone.

I tend to think the best way to communicate with your guides is to just listen to what they offer, and ask questions like you would to anyone, for answers.

We all have our main guide, who is usually a best friend in the spirit world. Sometimes we are on the other side helping them as their guide. We also have other guides that are around to help us on specific goals and understanding.

The best way IMO to connect with them is to clear the mind and listen. Or start a conservation with them. They usually listen and comment.
We are not and have never been alone. We have helpers on the other side who are always around to help us.
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2PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:04 pm

Sky,

The model of spiritual reality described in your OP
is exactly the same as mine, and has often been
described simply as "Spiritualism". It's been part
of the cosmology of practically all religions and
other spiritual belief systems throughout history,
though religious leaders have often demonized or
ignored it, simply because it encourages members
of the congregation to empower themselves by
learning use their psychic powers. However
significant numbers of people in every human
community have always had memories of past lives
and the disembodied state between lives similar
to those you described, so Spiritualism tends to
create itself if it's not already a part of the
culture's mainstream beliefs. It's also the only
cosmology that can be supported with rational
evidence provided by finding things hidden during
a previous life, or whose location was channeled
from a person's Spirit Guides. And more important,
it encourages people to learn how to use their own
psychic powers for telepathic communication,
spiritual healing, etc.

I gained sudden access to a lot of my past-life and
pre-life memories at the age of four, and also got
into conscious contact with my Spirit Guides.
Fortunately, my parents and the other adults I was
living with at the time were traditional Spiritualists
who approved of this and did their best to see that I
received the best training they could give me. I
ended up devoting my entire life to learning as much
as I could about this model of spiritual reality and
trying to teach it to others, and at age 73, I'm
satisfied that I've done a pretty good job. My 1983
"War in Heaven" book, which is posted as forum messages
in one of the Forums here on RS, is a good example of
what I'm talking about.
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3PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:26 pm

I believe the majority of people do remember. However some parents bound to fear based religions refuse to listen to their children, telling them they have a good imagination. You were lucky RR.
My Daddy supported me, my Mother either tried to point me in the direction of the Baptist Church, or wanted me to tell her what I saw for the future. sunny Both have visited me since their transition, and know we are in truth Spiritual Beings.

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4PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:08 pm

Skytiger wrote:
I believe the majority of people do remember. However some parents bound to fear based religions refuse to listen to their children, telling them they have a good imagination. You were lucky RR.
My Daddy supported me, my Mother either tried to point me in the direction of the Baptist Church, or wanted me to tell her what I saw for the future. sunny Both have visited me since their transition, and know we are in truth Spiritual Beings.

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I wasn't lucky. I had lots of help in choosing my parents, most of it from
the same spirits who are still my Guides. And I assume the same is true
of you, though you may not have conscious memories of the process. It
might be cool to ask your Guides about the details ... if they are willing
to tell you. (Sometimes the details are what might be called "trade
secrets" that aren't supposed to be made public.)

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5PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:59 pm

True.
I remember talking to all my guides right before this incarnation. I've written the details down, several years ago, in the 70s early 80s.
I have shared it in the pass. Like you I don't feel the need to share it at this time. cat
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6PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:30 pm

Skytiger wrote:
True.
I remember talking to all my guides right before this incarnation. I've written the details down, several years ago, in the 70s early 80s.
I have shared it in the pass. Like you I don't feel the need to share it at this time. cat

In my case, the discussions I had with my Guides before this incarnation
contained a lot "shop talk" about the internal politics behind the Spiritual
Revolution as described in the WiH Book. And from what I remember of
my four major my NDEs, they involved telepathic conversations between
me, my Guides, and the experts who got involved in determining if I was
going to transit or not that were really gross and scary.
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7PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:48 pm

Remembering to me came in waves... and my grandmother who did a substantial part of my "upbringing" was a Spiritualist, I could say, though at the time people did not call it this way in Hungarian (or German, which was the language of the learned). Having recalled the very first days after my birth, the odd thing was that the emphasis was on certain psychic powers, such as doing journeys out of the body. Then when I was exposed to certain stories and slide-projected versions of films, such as the Thief of Baghdad and the Jungle Book (no Disney at the time yet), I was dreaming whole nights about details of lives spent in a similar environment as some details of these books and slide films, without anything from the original story. Not much was either magical or mystical in these lives and they frequently lacked a coherent story.

The idea that we could live several times was gently breached to me and it was not a great surprise.

Another turning point that started a lot of remembering of a different kind was when I heard about the existence of "space aliens", then I saw the first speculative movie on "ancient memories" by Erich von Daniken. It's still a mystery to me why the Soviet control let that movie in, but my Guides affirm they did it because my small country of birth has been a "land of experimentation" many times in modern history, including the Soviet era. (While belief in positive ET civilizations was well tolerated in the Soviet world, naturally, this movie got the bad rap of "crazy people" and the "decadence of the West" from both the press and the public opinion - yet many of my classmates as well as their parents did go and see it.)

From what I remembered around my earliest years, though, these "spirits" were extremely scary to me at first. I regularly had dreams where I was taken by a group of flying skeletons and laid out on a giant cold stone table for some sort of manipulation. In retrospect, quite possibly this barrier of fear was created so that I would not speak or ask about certain things openly that would have been way too risky at the time. Society at the time was very repressive and my grandmother and her friends were tolerated simply because of their age.

To be quite frank, up to my early twenties, you could have had a serious problem anywhere in that society if your were honestly asking about reincarnation, aliens or altered states.

The odd thing was that I was already dreaming about alien beings and spaceships BEFORE seeing that first film, and graphically nothing much was allowed to enter the country. To be sure, a skeptic would point out that I had heard much about all these lands and cultures where my "previous lives" took place, as well as a few words of mere speculation that other intelligent beings with advanced civilizations existed.

Had I been sure about the basis of explanation of these experiences, including my inborn familiarity with the Russian language, I would have had a hard time when I was a teen and I was asking about stuff like that and debating arguments. Then many other things commanded my attention, as is normal for teens, including the other sex, music, trying to understand the grownups and learning other languages...

I have the feeling (now I frequently "feel" an assent from what I believe to be my Guides to queries like that in a normal waking state) that I have been sent here to a relatively underdeveloped, transitional site on Earth, under cover, because life here was routinely under total control (and the same dangers still exist), to parents who virtually embodied all the major historical forces battling each other (e.g. they were married during the bloody 1956 Uprising against Soviet control), and that I am still learning to be far less open and to disguise some of the stuff that is still indigestible to fanatical people who are hell-bent on bringing back the old demons...

Ever since I started meditation at 17 then experienced other altered states at 21, I have been sure that many of the things I was afraid of as a small child were actually the spirit side of life.

I had a memory - came back in a dream around the age of four - of living in a world where we simply moved objects with our willpower and I was a bit shocked that something didn't work when I tried to move the chair to help my grandma... At least she didn't think I was crazy.
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8PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:53 pm

I just checked that this movie was made in 1970, and it was shown in theaters in Hungary in 1972 when I was 11.
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9PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:29 pm

Seems we 3 have a lot in common cheers
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10PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:14 pm

What is my task as an IC operator? This seems to be a dangerous place in the long run. I got warnings in dreams that I should not take lightly my offer from the relatives - and lo and behold, it i not only that they became ardent Trump supporters, they are behaving oddly - control and repression is the order of the day. Frankly, I do not see myself with them for longer than a few weeks' visit. My other family members are all in Hawaii. They are building life in a network and I could probably join them in a few years. If I have the money to do so and if Putin and the jihadists do not dismantle life here completely until that time... Australia calls me too but there are only a couple of people I know there.
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11PostSubject: Re: Born remembering   Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:38 pm

reg, #7, re: "Remembering to me came in waves... and my
grandmother who did a substantial part of my 'upbringing'
was a Spiritualist, I could say, though at the time people
did not call it this way in Hungarian (or German, which
was the language of the learned). Having recalled the very
first days after my birth, the odd thing was that the
emphasis was on certain psychic powers, such as doing
journeys out of the body. Then when I was exposed to
certain stories and slide-projected versions of films,
such as the Thief of Baghdad and the Jungle Book (no
Disney at the time yet), I was dreaming whole nights
about details of lives spent in a similar environment
as some details of these books and slide films,
without anything from the original story. Not much was
either magical or mystical in these lives and they
frequently lacked a coherent story. The idea that we
could live several times was gently breached to me and
it was not a great surprise."

Yes! I've heard hundreds of similar stories from people
who grew up in every part of the Western World. There's
a rough-and-ready brand of spiritualism that seems to
create itself in all sorts of family situations, and
the essential details are always the things you just
mentioned.

re: "Another turning point that started a lot of
remembering of a different kind was when I heard about
the existence of 'space aliens', then I saw the first
speculative movie on 'ancient memories' by Erich von
Daniken. It's still a mystery to me why the Soviet
control let that movie in, but my Guides affirm they
did it because my small country of birth has been a
'land of experimentation' many times in modern history,
including the Soviet era. (While belief in positive ET
civilizations was well tolerated in the Soviet world,
naturally, this movie got the bad rap of 'crazy people'
and the 'decadence of the West' from both the press
and the public opinion - yet many of my classmates as
well as their parents did go and see it.)"

I was five years old and already had access to a lot
past-life memories when people first started talking
about "flying discs" and the like in 1947, and the
adults around me were fascinated with the phenomenon,
but tended to reards it as spiritual rather than
physical, and my Guides assured me this was the case.

re: "From what I remembered around my earliest years,
though, these 'spirits' were extremely scary to me at
first. I regularly had dreams where I was taken by a
group of flying skeletons and laid out on a giant cold
stone table for some sort of manipulation. In
retrospect, quite possibly this barrier of fear was
created so that I would not speak or ask about certain
things openly that would have been way too risky at the
time. Society at the time was very repressive and my
grandmother and her friends were tolerated simply
because of their age."

I also had dreams about the flying skeletons and being
manipulated in ways would later be described in UFO
abduction accounts, but when I told my Guides I
found them frightening, they said that thousands or
even millions of people were receiving these signals,
and being manipulated into not talking too much and
getting themselves in trouble.

re: "To be quite frank, up to my early twenties, you
could have had a serious problem anywhere in that
society if your were honestly asking about
reincarnation, aliens or altered states. The odd
thing was that I was already dreaming about alien
beings and spaceships BEFORE seeing that first film,
and graphically nothing much was allowed to enter
the country. To be sure, a skeptic would point out
that I had heard much about all these lands and
cultures where my 'previous lives' took place, as
well as a few words of mere speculation that other
intelligent beings with advanced civilizations
existed. Had I been sure about the basis of
explanation of these experiences, including my
inborn familiarity with the Russian language, I
would have had a hard time when I was a teen and
I was asking about stuff like that and debating
arguments. Then many other things commanded my
attention, as is normal for teens, including the
other sex, music, trying to understand the
grownups and learning other languages..."

As soon as I entered grade school, I was told by
both my Guides and the adults around me to
"act like a normal American kid" at school,
and to start formally studying occult subects
at home, which I did. So from that point on,
I'm sure my experiences were so different from
yours that it would be fruitless to compare them.

re: "I have the feeling (now I frequently 'feel'
an assent from what I believe to be my Guides
to queries like that in a normal waking state)
that I have been sent here to a relatively
underdeveloped, transitional site on Earth,
under cover, because life here was routinely
under total control (and the same dangers
still exist), to parents who virtually
embodied all the major historical forces
battling each other (e.g. they were married
during the bloody 1956 Uprising against
Soviet control), and that I am still
learning to be far less open and to disguise
some of the stuff that is still indigestible
to fanatical people who are hell-bent on
bringing back the old demons..."

My life has been pretty-much the opposite:
I grew up from an early age believing I
had an important role to play in the "New
Society" that was already then being
within the counterculture and occult
communities, and by the time left home in
1960 and struck out on my own I did my
best to always live on the cutting edge.

re: "Ever since I started meditation at 17
then experienced other altered states at 21,
I have been sure that many of the things I
was afraid of as a small child were actually
the spirit side of life.:

In other words, you reached many of the
same places I reached at similar ages,
but did so without being nearly as aware
on a conscious level of what was going on.
And, I count this as evidence that the
"Invisible College" is much I as described
it in the WiH book.

re:"I had a memory - came back in a dream
around the age of four - of living in a
world where we simply moved objects with
our willpower and I was a bit shocked that
something didn't work when I tried to move
the chair to help my grandma... At least
she didn't think I was crazy."

Millions of people have had similar
experiences over the past fifty or so
years, and I attribute them to a mixture
of past-life memories and real-time
telepathic transmission from the IC.
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