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1PostSubject: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:07 pm

My observations on this Cancer Epidemic and the Chemo that is killing the people who get it:
I see a culling of the population with all of this.  I do not see anything that makes me believe that we are overpopulating anything due to somethings is setting all this cancer off. 
Something is NOT right here and many are being lied too and blindfolded and told what to think and what to do.
I sit here watching my neighbor die because he is in that Viciousl, deadly circus they call health care.
I know that I am not the only one that is thinking this and observing it and watching the goverment kill people.
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2PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:26 pm

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My observations on this Cancer Epidemic and the Chemo that is killing the people who get it:
I see a culling of the population with all of this.  I do not see anything that makes me believe that we are overpopulating anything due to somethings is setting all this cancer off. 
Something is NOT right here and many are being lied too and blindfolded and told what to think and what to do.
I sit here watching my neighbor die because he is in that Viciousl, deadly circus they call health care.
I know that I am not the only one that is thinking this and observing it and watching the goverment kill people.

I agree with what you say, and one of my closest dirtside friends died a couple of years only a few months after beginning intensive chemo-therapy for cancer. From what I observed at that time, everything you just wrote seems to be true.

However, I'm actually taking a form of chemotherapy myself, and took 25 mg of methotrexate early this morning as I do every Sunday. This is because back in 2011, I was diagnosed as suffering from the auto-immune form of uveitis and nearly lost my eyesight. The eye doctors started out trying to treat it with topical and then systemic steroids, and when this didn't work put me on methotrexate. For the first couple of years I was also taking large doses of oral prednisone, and my vision gradually improved from close to 20/200 to about 20/80. A lot of that time, I rode in the visually impaired section on buses and subways cars and relied on friends to help shop and do lots of others things. And it's been a long time since I could read regular-sized type on paper without a magnifying glass. I do essentially all my reading on my computer, where I have special software that allows me to adjust the text till I can read it.


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3PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:45 pm

My neighbor does not have cancer.  He is in a vicious deadly cycle with Doctors, Precription (BIG Pharma), the Helath Insurance Companies and SS.
He was doing mostly OK until he went and tried and is still trying to get on SS Disability.  Every since then he has to go to the doctors on a regular basis and report it back to the GOVERNMENT.
He is yonger than I and looks like to be almost 90 yr old.  They have him on many drugs.
I do not see him living in the next five years, UNLESS, he stops taking all those drugs.  He can't now, the Government has control of him.

My story:
I have had 3 DVT's six months a part and I was put on Coumadin (RAT POISIN) for the rest of my life.  I was in the hospital all three times. and had no Health Insurance.  While at work one day I have severe stomach pains and had to go the the ER.  Mind you I had been taking the prescribe dose of Coumadin and getting my regular ProThrombin Time.  That was on my birthday.  I was bleeding internally because THEY had my blood too thin.  I weaned myelf off of that and have not taken that in over 20 years.  I go to have hernia surgery and the new doctor that I had to get because I don't like the be fed a BS.....told me that I had to go back on the Blood Thinner and stay on the the rest of my life.  Mind you I went and did my own research on natural blood thinners.  I gavw the 1 inch stack of papers to my doctor.  I watched him throw it all in the trash can on my way out the door.....It did not go well with the BIG PHARM agency that visits doctors offices to promot chemicals to their patients.  I never went back to him.  I don't take drugs and am not on prescriptions and I don't go to doctors to tell me what I should and should not know about my very own body that is mine and not theirs.  I don't have health insurance either and yes, last year I paid the penalty.  It is all a big SCAM.  
Notice when you go to the doctors you are told there is something wrong with you and that you are given a prescription and told to keep coming back.  Evil, Death, Vicious Circle.
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4PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:43 pm

LadyG, #3: I know lots of people who have gone or are now going through what you describe is happening to your friend and what happened to you in the past, but my own experience is quite different. I was nearly killed in a traffic accident in 1993 and have been on disability ever since, with Medicare and Medical picking up all my medical bills, and my only source of income is from Social Security, but I'm actually satisfied with my quality of life. I live by myself in a tiny apartment designed so a disabled person can be comfortable there, and I have friends I can call any time I need help doing something. My eye condition is being treated at a local medical school, where I've always felt completely comfortable, and I also get good service at a local clinic that specializes in taking care of elderly disabled people. I take lots of medication, but it all works to keep my various conditions under control, and I've never had any bad side-effects. So I really have no complaints.
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5PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:30 am

"Notice when you go to the doctors you are told there is something wrong with you and that you are given a prescription and told to keep coming back. Evil, Death, Vicious Circle."

Um... no. I do hope you're not one of those anti-vax people.
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6PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:22 am

I don't take flu shots anymore. Why? Because the 3 times I did, I ended up in the hospital with phenomenon staying about 7 to 10 days. Since I quit taking flu shots, I rarely RARELY have a cold.
If I feel like I might be getting one, I get WILD TURKEY HONEY and take a few sips, and it kills whatever resulting in no colds.
FYI I hate liquor, and never drink it or beer, unless I feel bad, which happens once or twice if at all a year.
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7PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:54 am

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I don't take flu shots anymore. Why? Because the 3 times I did, I ended up in the hospital with phenomenon staying about 7 to 10 days. Since I quit taking flu shots, I rarely RARELY have a cold.
If I feel like I might be getting one, I get WILD TURKEY HONEY and take a few sips, and it kills whatever resulting in no colds.
FYI I hate liquor, and never drink it or beer, unless I feel bad, which happens once or twice if at all a year.

I don't drink either.  Not even Nyquill.
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8PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:51 am

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I don't take flu shots anymore. Why? Because the 3 times I did, I ended up in the hospital with phenomenon staying about 7 to 10 days. Since I quit taking flu shots, I rarely RARELY have a cold.
If I feel like I might be getting one, I get WILD TURKEY HONEY and take a few sips, and it kills whatever resulting in no colds.
FYI I hate liquor, and never drink it or beer, unless I feel bad, which happens once or twice if at all a year.

What phenomenon hospitalised you?
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9PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:27 pm

Can't spell, but you already knew that. 
I was put in 3 different hospitals in Texas.
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10PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:40 pm

Actually, no, if I thought you meant pneumonia I would have said so. My bad, I assumed you meant some type of phenomena hospitalised you.
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11PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:02 pm

I think the cancer surge is due to many factors - part of it is the untold amount of chemicals in the environment. Part of it is material but subtle problems we haven't figured out and orthodox science has little interest in learning about it.
Let me just bring up three such points where I would do research if I were working with bona fide scientists and not just a financially motivated industry:
- possible connections of Candida, Aspergillus and other fungal toxins to cancer cases
- possible connection of various deficiencies that are growing in some parts of the world e.g. iodine and selenium
- possible connections of EMF fields and weaker immune systems (e.g. the Swedish research on cell phones and decreased production of melatonine.

Plus the third and largest aspect: psycho-physical links - I have seem miraculous cases myself but I would hesitate to use a framework that turns this logic on its head and say that cancer patients would somehow "cause" or maintain their illness by some faulty logic or emotion or whatever. That would be not helping or exploring but being dogmatic and judgmental on the part of the holistic practitioner.

With that said, the kind of homeopathy I studied for a while also says that the general mentality of consumerism parallels what they call the patient portrayal of cancers. Plus they bring up the interesting point of view - whether you explore homeopathy or other holistic viewpoints, this is interesting - that when they treat cancer patients, they give them a remedy for the cancer and another one for the person as if the cancer was a separate personality.

Also there are several kinds of wonder herbs science has been gathering data about. Cayenne (normal hot pepper) use in large doses seems to go together with significantly lower cancer stats, people evaluated countries like Thailand and areas of Mexico in recent years, mutatis mutandis - level of industrial pollution, vitamin D from fish or other sources, level of activity etc.

The financial and regulatory part looked far worse in the US than it does over here in Europe. I would be biased against chemo but at the same time I read hard data that recently they have some good stats for certain kinds in certain cases - cancers of the womb or breast in women are like that. In other cases such as lung cancer it is useless and it would be better if the patient died in dignity.

So one thing is that each drug is different and each cancer is. I also read more and more evidence and testimonies that cannabis can be used (oil notably) with credible results, plus for years I have been experimenting with electricity (Rife method). While a recently deceased Turkish MD licensed one such use of Megahertz-wavelength treatments in Italy, very little research is done.

As for the thought "behind it" that some people want to kill a large part of the population - well, some of that is true, though it is not some kind of agency but we brought it on ourselves - I think it is merely the reaction of the planet and nature plus weird karmas. It is unavoidable with this density. Just like homosexuality is measured to grow in rat experiments when they are overpopulated in a cage. It may be nature's response...
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12PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:04 pm

I actually caught the flu after getting a bad vaccination many years ago. I don't remember exactly when it was, but it was in the Seventies, and I I do recall that a bad batch of vaccine was released and that this was admitted in the mass media at the time. However, I am unable to Google up any information whatsoever on this. All I can find is stuff like:

Can people catch the flu from a vaccination?

This myth really caught on over the years. Flu shots are made with dead viruses or without any viruses at all. You can’t catch the flu from getting one. Your arm might hurt after the shot. You might have aches or a low fever. But you'd feel a lot worse if you caught the flu.

Does anyone reading here have more information on this? I am absolutely sure that it happened and was mentioned on radio and TV, in newspapers, etc.
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13PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:09 pm

My classmate works at a flu shot company here in Budapest. He says no, they make sure the viruses are all dead. The bad stuff is that you don't know how people react to the mercury-containing Thymerosal that is used to preserve the flu shots. Another thing is that they are gambling if they work for weeks to produce tens of thousands of doses while the actual flue mutates.

But generally it is a good idea for old people or people with a special exposure. I avoid it but I successfully healed my flues with electric treatments from my computer, Echinacea, hot peppers and a few other things.

At the same time, with the Sabin drops - the US changed the vaccine to live, thus the only source of polio now is the vaccine which the scientist designed originally as a dead virus vaccine and it was already working well.
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14PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:14 pm

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I actually caught the flu after getting a bad vaccination many years ago. I don't remember exactly when it was, but it was in the Seventies, and I I do recall that a bad batch of vaccine was released and that this was admitted in the mass media at the time. However, I am unable to Google up any information whatsoever on this. All I can find is stuff like:

Can people catch the flu from a vaccination?

This myth really caught on over the years. Flu shots are made with dead viruses or without any viruses at all. You can’t catch the flu from getting one. Your arm might hurt after the shot. You might have aches or a low fever. But you'd feel a lot worse if you caught the flu.

Does anyone reading here have more information on this? I am absolutely sure that it happened and was mentioned on radio and TV, in newspapers, etc.

What I was told, by having a heated discussion on this flu shots, was that they are dead viruses, BUT and the BIG BUT was that there are many strains of the flu virus and they do not cover all of them.....so if you got the flu from getting the shot you might have gotten another strain of it, just not that one.
I can't get the flu shot because I am allergic to the stuff they put in it.  I have never had a severe form of the flu either, BUT my husband gets the shot every year becasue he has to with his job, and then a week later he gets the flu.  He can't opt out of it...he doesn't have a spleen or a Gall Bladder either.
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15PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:15 pm

Does he get the flu or does he get low-grade fever?
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16PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:27 pm

BSSM wrote:
Does he get the flu or does he get low-grade fever?
He gets the flu and it lasts about a week, just as he never got the shot.  Last year it wasn't as bad though, but the years before that, he was off of work for almost the whole week on the couch looking like death warmed over. (sarcstic)
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17PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:38 pm

BSSM wrote:
Actually, no, if I thought you meant pneumonia I would have said so. My bad, I assumed you meant some type of phenomena hospitalised you.


Ok, sorry my spelling frankly sucks.

One thing I've noticed, it seems my immune system is stronger than others in my age category. My GP told me last year, 'Your extremely healthy for your age'.
I attribute that to ranch life, raising our own beef and vegetables, as well as hard outdoor work. The last I pretty much avoid, leaving to the younger ones on the ranch.
I also think my immune system has grown stronger, by not having flu shots, as it fights off the flu by itself.
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18PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:09 pm

I can't argue that your lifestyle would be a contributor to your healthy immune system. A diet that is low in preservatives and the clean air you would be breathing could only be seen as a positive.

I'm not saying you are wrong for not receiving the flu vaccine. What bothers me is the falsehoods that are spread about the vaccine being dangerous.
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19PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:00 pm

That's partly a quality issue. Hungary has been traditionally extremely good with drug standards - we follow the Swiss. The US has slacker standards, Britain better, and the third world can be any way.
Another thing is from the holistic viewpoint you can get another vaccine but each vaccine is like loading an antivirus or spycatcher software on your computer, being the analogy of the immune system. What homeopaths are really saying is that you should not overload the system when it's just forming in the very first days by a number of shots. DPT is notorious for example.
I have seen my own baby inoculated against a supposedly harmless bacterial disease and changing her behavior wildly for weeks and months on end. That ain't worth it. But on the other hand, Tetanus works fine and proven, even after the infection sets in.
I am not for the blindly anti-vaccine people, neither for the blindly pro-vaccine people because this holistic viewpoint is clearly missing - plus with polio in the US, the only source if infection is the "weakened virus" which is of questionable value if evaluated in the light of what the inventor of the original vaccine, Jonas Salk said in testimony to the US Congress.
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20PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:18 am

Back to the cancer epidemic and the USA.  They know that cancer feeds off of sugar and now there is some study that a certain ray of light also kills it as well as Vitamin "C".  

Why doesn't the USA use any of these treatments?  They would rather kill the patient with the Chemo than do it in a more natural way.

I had a neighbor who died of cancer....or th chem treatments. He had been getting chemo for abut 6 months and insurance covered that.  He was so sick and he told me that he stopped taking the drugs becasue of that.  He felt that his life was already over.  So he started his own atlernative medicine treatments, which BTW his insurnace did JNOT cover.  He was so full of all those chems that his alternatives meds didn't have a chance to kick in.  He died.  I was the one that took he and his wife to the hospital that fateful day.  I watched him die as they put him on morphine and some other drug.  No, I was not in the room but I was in the wating room across from his room.  The saddest things that I ever witnessed.  
All the Chems they use have many detrimental side effects.  
Most people who get cancer of some sort or another die within 2 years after they start on the Chemo treatment.

My Question is this:
What is killing the cancer patients....the chemo or the cancer and has anyone lived with cancer without having any chemo?
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21PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:27 am

To answer your question

Cancer kills patients.

As to cancer feeding off sugar? No, I don't think you understand the complexities of cancer.

Now to your friend receiving morphine (the other drug was probably midazolam) your friend was receiving 'comfort care' This regime is common in the palliative stage and preferable to dying in excruciating pain.

Also, many people do survive many years after receiving chemotherapy.
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22PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:31 am

BSSM wrote:
To answer your question

Cancer kills patients.

As to cancer feeding off sugar? No, I don't think you understand the complexities of cancer.

Now to your friend receiving morphine (the other drug was probably midazolam) your friend was receiving 'comfort care' This regime is common in the palliative stage and preferable to dying in excruciating pain.

Also, many people do survive many years after receiving chemotherapy.

I don't think that I conveyed that propery. I am wondering if those who don't have chemo and still have cancer, did they survive without the chemo?

I do understand the complexities of that horrible *host*, but many think of it as a disease only.  I don't have the time right now, but I can pull up all the reseach from Medical jurnals and what-nots and post the links here.  Then again, it is fruitless to do so as many don't even go to the links.
So I will leave it at that.

Oh BTW my typing is awful!
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23PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:36 am

Not "Host" more like the human body is the "host" for the Parasite of Cancer.
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24PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:43 am

IMO a persons attitude and belief about what will happen to them, contributes to the outcome of the outcome of diseases they may have.
In other words if they think a disease will kill them, it probably will. If they think they will survive, their chances of doing so increase greatly.
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25PostSubject: Re: The Cancer and Healthcare Epidemic   Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:47 am

True enough, Sky. A positive attitude is beneficial to the recovery process.
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